tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post4222385613152095574..comments2024-02-19T20:15:42.673-08:00Comments on Buried by Books: Romance and Mystery Reviews: Goodreads Steps in ItBuriedbybooks http://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-2253201062484536022012-08-13T15:32:55.330-07:002012-08-13T15:32:55.330-07:00just an fyi it is Shelfari just an fyi it is Shelfari jryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06375921341016401539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-46133983110103203362012-07-28T02:26:50.538-07:002012-07-28T02:26:50.538-07:00Great post! :) You got out the best snippets!
Btw...Great post! :) You got out the best snippets!<br /><br />Btw, this whole drama 100% removes any purpose to the “follow” button. I personally do not wish to be friends with 98734956 people on gr, but it seems this is the only way we can see the “forbidden fruit” reviews and let others see ours. I think it is utter travesty that followers can not see the new hidden reviews and only friends can. This pretty effectively stop knowledge of “authors behaving badly” from being spread – thus being an author friendly rule almost exclusively.<br /><br />Also, did you all notice how it was not specified WHEN the review gets hidden? It was stated that it gets hidden after it is flagged - but we have no idea if it is hidden from that point on or only when a admin looks at the flags. If it gets hidden at once, then seeeeesh….we will all drowns in positive reviews!<br /><br />~DDinjolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00780822454182523515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-46613595739309632962012-07-27T06:52:41.298-07:002012-07-27T06:52:41.298-07:00I would be up for that as well if there was a viab...I would be up for that as well if there was a viable alternative to GR. Only reason I have not done Library Thing is they charge after a certain amount of records. It is disappointing that instead of going after the authors causing the problem (c'mon, we ALL know where the real problem lies), they take it out on the readers to appease said authors. But as others have pointed out, follow the money. Their business if they want to censor or police (it is their site), but it is a move that loses them credibility. It only takes a few minutes to ruin a reputation. <br /><br />Best, and keep on blogging.Angelhttp://itinerantlibrarian.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-56361300724739919432012-07-26T16:38:59.781-07:002012-07-26T16:38:59.781-07:00Thank you for alerting me. I don't visit that ...Thank you for alerting me. I don't visit that site—I won't give them traffic.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-79941593075516682522012-07-26T16:20:09.209-07:002012-07-26T16:20:09.209-07:00Just as an FYI. That site that shall not be named ...Just as an FYI. That site that shall not be named (STGRB) has linked to this post in the comments of their latest entry.Kara_Malinczakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07559498182018910285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-73504703700716094912012-07-26T15:20:33.671-07:002012-07-26T15:20:33.671-07:00Actually, Brenda, I disagree strongly. We authors ...Actually, Brenda, I disagree strongly. We authors don't *need* to see ANY reviews, because they are not written for us or with us in mind, and to imply that they exist to provide us with the sort of feedback we should be getting before a book is published is to imply that *readers* exist for to provide us with feedback.<br /><br />It's not about us. <br /><br />Reviews written for readers to share with other readers are none of our business. We shouldn't be peering over their shoulders.<br /><br />JMO, of course.Stacia Kanehttp://www.staciakane.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-7358970752333630232012-07-26T10:17:36.750-07:002012-07-26T10:17:36.750-07:00As an author (and reader), I am disappointed that ...As an author (and reader), I am disappointed that Goodreads is moving in this direction. We (authors) need to see ALL reviews, good or bad, because they make us better writers. If an author does not have thick skin, they should get out of the game now or not even bother to read ANY reviews. Authors won't please everyone all the time. It is just a fact of life and experienced authors know not to get caught up in the drama of negative reviews.<br /><br />However, I can't help but wonder if this is Goodreads way of bringing their policies more in-line with Amazon's Safari? Just some food for thought.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00596725701250446448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-82834241731379058102012-07-26T08:26:32.177-07:002012-07-26T08:26:32.177-07:00I'm not a big user of Goodreads but I really d...I'm not a big user of Goodreads but I really dislike the idea of them deeming what Is and isn't useful in the art of reviews and discussion. It seems to defeat the purpose because I'd want to see everything. They ought to work on those badly behaving authors and go from there.Sarahhttp://twitter.com/Ventruednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-76900839769373273162012-07-26T08:19:30.486-07:002012-07-26T08:19:30.486-07:00I know :( Ah well. Plenty of other sites out there...I know :( Ah well. Plenty of other sites out there.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-13607258683896463982012-07-26T08:13:34.782-07:002012-07-26T08:13:34.782-07:00Yep, I'm moving then. I don't want to be c...Yep, I'm moving then. I don't want to be censored.Monica Corwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02456293103648606803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-5929960545256480542012-07-26T08:02:47.418-07:002012-07-26T08:02:47.418-07:00It is their site. They are welcome to police it as...It is their site. They are welcome to police it as they choose. But without the free content provided by the users, it's going to lose value quickly. <br /><br />As soon as you start manipulating what people see, you undermine the trust in the site. And without trust, you'll lose those very users who supply that oh-so-valuable content.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-69340589737317139282012-07-26T08:00:16.948-07:002012-07-26T08:00:16.948-07:00Thanks, Sunita!
I loved your post BTW! Very nice...Thanks, Sunita! <br /><br />I loved your post BTW! Very nice analysis of why Goodreads has the problems it does. And your suggestions are so much better than what the flunkies seem to have decided to do. <br /><br />I'm definitely only going to use GR for note-taking. As a place to sort good books from bad, this newest move just made it worthless to me.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-14477704351527872212012-07-26T07:58:41.400-07:002012-07-26T07:58:41.400-07:00Infuriating!!!Infuriating!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-70672646132872223962012-07-26T07:57:45.298-07:002012-07-26T07:57:45.298-07:00The reviews aren't being deleted entirely, but...The reviews aren't being deleted entirely, but if you aren't friends with someone whose review has been hidden, you aren't going to see it. <br /><br />I wish I were less cynical, but people and companies usually start as they mean to go on. Meaning this attempt to control the public face of GR by sanitizing the reviews seen is just the beginning. And if they are going to clean up the site, they darn well should have started with the author behavior that created the drama to begin with.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-89855396595231549302012-07-26T07:57:21.785-07:002012-07-26T07:57:21.785-07:00Hey Amber, great post! I linked to it in my latest...Hey Amber, great post! I linked to it in my latest rant about GR. You are usually clearer and more concise that me. ;)<br /><br />If someone shows me a different platform for reader conversations and my buddies migrate over, I'm gone from GR.Sunitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11241584136397101851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-38394343440271752492012-07-26T07:54:26.902-07:002012-07-26T07:54:26.902-07:00In a follow up post, Patrick claimed that only rev...In a follow up post, Patrick claimed that only reviews that contain NO mention of the book will be hidden. But I sincerely doubt that. All it would take is a vague sentence or two about the book followed by critique of the author to get around these rules. Where's the point?<br /><br />And yes, I can't see them hiding the positive stuff on the book page. <br /><br />Worst of all, as a first step in intervening, it takes the wrong side. I think many people would be less offended if GR had done something to rein in the out of control authors first.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-26006442128598076252012-07-26T06:58:56.414-07:002012-07-26T06:58:56.414-07:00I still disagree with GR's premise that author...I still disagree with GR's premise that author behavior, etc., isn't relevant to a book review. If I'm spending money on a book, I absolutely want to make sure I'm not supporting an author whom I find offensive, vindictive, juvenile, etc. <br /><br />And I don't believe either that they'll hide the positive, non-review squeeing about an author. I'm getting closer and closer to pulling out of GR...it's clear who they're choosing to serve in this debate, and it's not the readers.Sarah (The Brazen Bookworm)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12259499339333351558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-50198622110407351172012-07-25T21:21:25.085-07:002012-07-25T21:21:25.085-07:00That is ridiculous. I've been a member of GR s...That is ridiculous. I've been a member of GR since I started blogging in 2009, and the only reviews that have ever been hidden are ones the author marks for spoilers. Furthermore, GR's "hands off" approach has been almost criminal in the past--they allow authors to bully, threaten, and stalk readers, yet their response to that is to "curate" READERS' reviews? Their energy would be much better spent watching the authors who spam and bully the hell out of readers.<br /><br />I am very disappointed in GoodReads as well. Oh well, there's always LibraryThing...Heidenkindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09494625457587427781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-21107589194267918382012-07-25T20:54:19.453-07:002012-07-25T20:54:19.453-07:00They claim they've been working on these chang...They claim they've been working on these changes for months, but I'm guessing this is a reaction to the GRBullies site and the huge amount of negative publicity that came with it. And, unfortunately, they've decided that the money that comes from authors and publishers is more important than the integrity of their site or their readers. <br /><br />They also claim that they will hide random squeeing reviews that don't address the book itself (ie The author is so sweet!) I'll believe that when I see it. I'm upset, too. Very, very upset.Buriedbybooks https://www.blogger.com/profile/13945897945845383252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4951562957483519143.post-57508439506425998302012-07-25T20:35:19.002-07:002012-07-25T20:35:19.002-07:00This annoys me so much. What about the authors who...This annoys me so much. What about the authors who have acted badly? This disappoints me so much!A Buckeye Girl Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08952103323793072580noreply@blogger.com